How Common Household Chemicals Alter Hormones and Neurodevelopment
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Eve: 27 years
Dr. Schwartz: Okay. That’s great and you know our focused is on autism. And I know you do some preconception care. So why don’t you start by telling us how you would approach parents that are thinking of conceiving?
00:55 Start Detoxing TODAY
Eve: The first and the most important thing is to start asking teenagers and young women, women in their 20s, often up to 35, do you ever intend to have a child, because if you intend to have a child, the day for you to start detoxing is today, because we know now that autism is fundamentally created in utero. This is not something that is happening to the baby after they're born. This is something that's happening prior to birth. The exposures to synthetic chemicals, including everything from household cleaners to personal care products to toxins that are in food, are all things that can affect the brain of the developing fetus.
Dr. Schwartz: Now, you know there's some controversy in that. My mind is clear. The research shows the increase in autism is a real increase. There are still people saying that our diagnosis, diagnostic substitution, more awareness. How do you approach that or what's your thought on that?
Eve: Frankly, I think it’s nonsense. What's really true is over the last 30 years. The amount of autism has increased markedly and it's not because of a widening of the diagnostic profile. It's not because of better identification. It is because there are more autistic children. When you read Stephanie Seneff’s work from MIT and other organizations, this is really only the tip of the iceberg. In other words, we’re going to not only have more autistic kids tomorrow, we’re going to have more autistic kids markedly over the next decade.
Dr. Schwartz: Right. I just want to point out that we did interview Stephanie Seneff. So listeners, please listen to her interview.
Eve: It’s shocking.
Dr. Schwartz: It is. It is. The good news is something can be done. That has been your focus. That's what you lecture on. What would you suggest for parents? And then tell us more about your testing and individualized approach for an autistic child.
02:54 Total Toxic Load
Eve: First thing that we have to realize is that every single bite of food that you take, every sip you take out of a glass, every perfume you put on, every household cleaner that you use, is going to affect the brain of the developing fetus and not just during the pregnancy but even prior to the pregnancy. The TTL, the total toxic load that you're carrying in your body from a lifetime of exposure to the 87,000 chemicals that are listed in the Federal Registery to the 19,000 pesticides and herbicides and fungicides that are out there, all of those things affect living tissue.
03:34 Your Body on Toxins
Eve: I'll tell a story briefly about my uncle Ed. My uncle Ed was in the Air Force. They called it the Air Corps during World War II. He was shot down. He was a prisoner of war for the Germans back in those days. Uncle Ed used to throw tinfoil out of the plane and I can remember talking to him one time and saying “Uncle Ed, what was the thing about the tinfoil?” He said “We would use it to distract the German radar.” The German radar was so primitive in those days, they couldn’t tell an airplane from the tinfoil. Well, the same thing can happen in our bodies. The body can't tell those synthetic chemicals from the natural endocrine chemicals that are in there. As a result, we misidentify and we misfire. We can create responses in the body that we didn't desire. We can not create responses that we do desire as a result of throwing these synthetic chemicals in the body. So making people aware of the fact that it doesn't just come in from your plate of food, it comes in from the cream you rubbed on your hands. It comes in from the air freshener that you bought for the holidays that you've got out in bowls of potpourri. It comes from the scented candles. It comes from what you use to clean the floor or wipe off the coffee table. We must become aware of all the toxins that are in our environment: in the air we breathe and the water we drink, in the food we eat and in the personal and home care chemicals that we use.
Dr. Schwartz: Right. One question I have and I’ve heard different answers. Where would you say is your largest source of toxins?
05:12 Greatest Source of Toxins
Eve: There is no question about it. It’s your diet. While you could be exposed to toxic chemicals anywhere and anytime, I went out walking one morning and I was on the cul-de-sac coming around the corner and one of the pesticide services that delivers poisons directly to your home had pulled up and was spraying the yard that I had to walk by and so I took a big breath and walked as quick as I could to try to get by it, but you can be exposed at any time to environmental toxins.
Dr. Schwartz: Clearly, diet is, which is good news because it’s what you do at least three times a day and you can control it.
Eve: It is something control. You can have some effect on. I'm on the road a lot of days out of the year and I can do as good a job as I possibly can do in choosing well, in searching out organic restaurants, and fixing things in my own room, but what's true is in my home every single thing that's in my refrigerator, every single thing that's in my pantry, is organic, right down to the mustard and the ketchup and the mayonnaise.
Dr. Schwartz: Excellent and then that's your starting suggestion for parents, or would be parents that are thinking of parenting.
06:27 Organic Food
Eve: No question about it. The more organic food that we could choose, the lower our total pesticide load. I have a lot of value for the Environmental Working Group having put out the list they call The Dirty Dozen and The Clean 15, because those lists talk about the most contaminated fruits and vegetables that we can be exposed to. So, even if you only bought those things organic, you be making a step up. I don’t really care if you ever buy an organic mango or pineapple, because we very rarely see pesticides on it. But I do want you buying organic butter and organic cheese and as much organic meat as possible. Those toxins get concentrated in the fat that the animals. So if you were only buy one organic thing, make it organic butter, even if it is six bucks a pound.
Dr. Schwartz: You want to pay the hospital or do you want to the farmer?
Eve: That's a good way to look at it.
Dr. Schwartz: So, if you see a child that’s somewhere on the spectrum. I think we now know that it is a continuum and we’re seeing other neurological problems increasing in kids, where would you start? Testing? Do you have a sequence? How would you approach the child?
07:37 The Gut
Eve: The first thing I'm always doing is testing the gut. I’m doing a stool study with parasitology. The nature of so many kids today is they have been given antibiotic after antibiotic. They get an ear that hurts. They get a cough cough and somebody gives them an antibiotic. We know now that if kids get five series of antibiotics before their fifth birthday, they’re more likely to end up obese. So we’re already looking at this frequent use of antibiotics in children and trying to make compensation there. And it isn't just a matter of throwing a probiotic at it. We have to find out what critters are in there. Are they parasites? You don't have to go to some foreign country to get a parasite. The parasite could be coming in on the box of vegetables. Is that overgrowth of a yeast, because somebody has had a lot of antibiotics? Or is it a bacteria that doesn't belong in the environment. As far as I'm concerned, the first thing you do is straighten out the gut. Get rid of the bad guys. Put in the good guys and give enzymes to assist in the digestive process.
Dr. Schwartz: Are there special formulations you use for kids?
08:49 Gut Treatments
Eve: Oh, absolutely. The special formulations really have to do with using things like ProbioMax as good guy bacteria, using saccharomyces cerevisiae, as Saccharomycin, in order to try to get rid of bad yeast. Parasites, it really depends on what family they’re from. That is often a drug treatment, but I will get kids in my practice and blastocystis hominis. And I find homeopathic remedies are better at clearing that. So it really depends on what you find from the comprehensive stool analysis with parasitology as to how you treat. You get rid of parasites first. You get rid of the bacteria second. You get rid of the yeast last.
Dr. Schwartz: That's good to hear, because that's what we need is some practical information.
Eve: I think you have to start there, because you have exotoxins, the things that are coming from the outside, like what you use to wipe down the coffee table or clean the silver, and you have endotoxins, the toxins that you're making in your own bowel. Even if I eat 100% organic and I’m using high quality skin care products and homecare products, if I'm creating a poison factory in my own gut and I don't solve that problem, then you're pretty much swimming against the tide as far as I'm concerned. That's the reason that I'm absolutely going to put the gut first.
10:12 Food Sensitivities
Eve: Then secondly, I’m going to pay attention to food sensitivities, not food allergies or IgE’s. IgE’s, you pretty much know. If the cat comes in the room in your eyes start to itch, or the pollen starts to fall and you start sneezing, or you eat a strawberry and you break out in hives, you don't need no stinkin’ test. You've already got the evidence of an allergy. But it's the sensitivities that we developed to some foods as a result of the gut being imbalanced that I want to go further and find out more about the IgG’s, the IgM’s, the IgA's, not just the IGE's.
Dr. Schwartz: Good. Are parents willing to do that? Do you just do elimination approach? Or do you…
10:56 Determining Food Sensitivities
Eve: Well, it really depends on the child. Some children, the only thing that they’re on is the breast, if they’re really young. Sometimes they’re only on formula. Sometimes they're in a situation where I'm not seen this kid until they’re are eight or nine years old and they’re living on pancakes, toast, potatoes and cheese. I cite that because that was an example of a diet of a child that was brought to me. The child runs the roost. The child determines what it is they’ll eat. The nature of doing food sensitivity tests, the first limitation I have is how much money do they have. In my practice, it’s a cash only practice. I don't deal with any insurance companies. So sometimes we have to test $300 at a time, because they're just no liberty to do anything else. But the nature of elimination diets, I think elimination diets are really hard on kids. If you take out the dairy products, but you don't take out the gluten-containing grains and their reactive to both of them, then you're not really going to see a result. And yet you put a kid through something they didn't need to be put through. So even though it's no fun to do a blood draw on a child, I’d rather do the blood draw once get it over with and find out what those food sensitivities are. So long before I test heavy metals, long before I have a situation where I'm looking for exotic elements, I am going to look at the gut and the food.
Dr. Schwartz: So you would do actually an IgG testing then for food or do?
Eve: Yes, I do IgG. But I'll do IgG, IgM and IgA all together sometimes. It depends on the amount of foods that the kid is eating. Sometimes I’ve got a child and they're only eating six foods, then what am I going to substitute? What am I gonna eliminate? I don’t want to put a child through that unless I know for sure that that’s a food that we should be taking out of their diet.
Dr. Schwartz: Right. Well, that makes a lot of sense.
Eve: I can remember the day the client that the kid ate pancakes, and toast, and baked potatoes and cheese and pasta with cheese, and bread with cheese and cheese with cheese. I can remember she called me up one day. I just happened to answer the phone at the clinic, which I don't do very often and this mom was on the other end and she was crying on the phone and I went “Oh, no. What happened?” and she said “He asked for broccoli.” So you can turn a kid around.
Dr. Schwartz: I emphasis that with parents. It's not all doom and gloom. There are some taste buds there, if you can get them.
Eve: Right.
13:27 Mineral Testing
Dr. Schwartz: And that's where things like mineral testing, I assume you do in treatment, that can really help.
Eve: Yes, I'm a big fan of the SpectraCell test. The SpectraCell test tells me what nutrients are necessary. I just tested a brain-damaged child recently and found out that he was low in alpha lipoic acid and biotin. That isn’t something that you can look at a kid and know that they need. I'm going to be real interested to see what happens over the next several months as we replete those nutrients, because there's really a difference between a deficiency and insufficiency.
Dr. Schwartz: Tell us about that.
Eve: He may just have an insufficiency. Why do you need 100 mg of B2 and I need 200 mg and Mike needs 500 mg. We don’t know. That's biochemical individuality. But sometimes what we have is an insufficiency. They're getting that nutrient but they're not getting that nutrient in a high enough amount. And so this little guy came in ever so slightly low on glutamine, an amino acid. Interestingly enough, it was the very first nutrient that I put him on, and had we tested him at that time, on his very first appointment; his glutamine would've been down in the dumpster. But happily we’re getting growth now in this child. He had been at a stable weight for some period of time, hadn’t been growing at all. Once we put him on glutamine, we started putting some weight on him.
Dr. Schwartz: Key amino acid, which is also a sign of glutathione production and so many other functions in the body.
15:01 Glutamine
Eve: Well, yeah, but because glutamine is so prevalent in the body, everybody thought you couldn't possibly be deficient in it, but what's true is glutamine falls into a fairly new category. Instead of just talking about essential and nonessential amino acids, we have to talk about conditionally essential and that's what glutamine is. So when you’ve got a child who’s not putting on weight, that’s a condition that tells us we need glutamine and we need it in pretty large amounts. Even in this little guy who was about 26 pounds when he originally came to me, I was giving him 12 g a day. That would be darn near impossible to do in capsules. I’m giving him a teaspoon three times a day.
Dr. Schwartz: This is something I would really acknowledge you for, even how valuable that is. We were not taught that in medical school. Essential, nonessential but until we get into the subtleties like you're doing and really digging deeper, we’re not going to see results for these kids.
Eve: Well, I had the good fortune to help with the study that Dr. Judy Shabert did. Dr. Shabert is one of the authorities on glutamine and she herself had sinus cancer, something I don’t even want to think about. But I had the good fortune to work with Dr. Shabert on HIV study back in the days before protease inhibitors showed up. Very many HIV-positive individuals wasted away, like cancer patients did, and we started putting people on high amounts of glutamine, as much is 36 g a day, a tablespoon for breakfast, lunch and dinner. We literally took people from the deathbed, to back to work and so they survived long enough for protease inhibitors to show up. I'm happy to say some of those people are still alive today.
Dr. Schwartz: Well, congratulations on your foresight there.
Eve: Well, I want to give the credit to Dr. Judy Shabert, because it was her vision that helped us to understand how critical glutamine is. So whether somebody's got a lousy gut, a leaky gut, you need glutamine. That's what the colonocytes love to eat. They don’t eat glucose. They eat glutamine. If I've got individuals and they’ve got unexplained weight loss and you've done the diagnostic search for what the cause is. You've knocked out hyperthyroidism and cancers and all sorts of things. Glutamine is often what will help them turn the corner.
17:13 Amino Acid Testing
Dr. Schwartz: That would be your amino acid testing?
Eve: Yeah, amino acid testing is another one, but that has so much variability to it. I always wonder with amino acid testing, if I tested you at 8 in the morning and I tested you at two in the afternoon, how different are my results doing to be?
Dr. Schwartz: That was going to be my next question. That 24 hour urine versus the morning.
Eve: You know what I'm more likely to do in that instance? I'm much more likely to take good amino acid support and simply give a lot of free-form amino acids and see if that doesn't improve the individual. I do that with neurological problems and I do that with a lot of energy problems. When you look at free-form amino acids, a lot of times you don't know what somebody’s short in. So rather than testing and identifying two or three aminos I might give a broad-spectrum free amino acid supplement and just see how they do before I spend the money on testing.
Dr. Schwartz: That’s a key point, because you’re clinical human experience can direct you and that's the challenge.
18:21 Be an Incrementalist
Eve: But I also realize you can test yourself poor and you can’t test yourself healthy. You have to do an intervention with each test. So if you do 10 tests on somebody, you can’t act on all those 10 tests right away. So you need to do a test, act on those results, do a test, act on those results. You have to stair step it, but you have to be an incrementalist in order to be able to do that. Working with healing on some of these very complicated cases requires the mentality of an incrementalist.
Dr. Schwartz: That a good point. So I assume you'll see kids up in the X number of doctors, specialist, experts, and they’re not getting better.
Eve: Sometimes I think my whole practice is nothing but fails. People often come to me after them into six docs or 17 of them. That's why I got a father of a 17-year-old in my practice right now, they call me the voodoo priestess because they been to all the big dogs and didn't get an answer and I found the clue to his son's headaches. But it really is detective work.
Dr. Schwartz: It’s another way of thinking. It cannot be done in a seven to ten minute office visit. Which you know is the standard.
19:27 Getting to Know Patients
Eve: Oh, no way. I do a 2 hour intake appointment. I spend an entire first hour doing a history. So I take a history like a homeopath, from the top to bottom, from the inside out, from today backward. So sometimes even that hour doesn't give you all you need. Sometimes in the last five minutes of the appointment they give you that one little pearl, that one piece of information that helps to unlock the whole circumstance. But you have to dedicate enough time to get to know that person. See, if I take the approach that everybody that comes to me is gonna stay with me for 10 or 20 years, I have clients that have been with me for 26 years and it wasn’t because they didn't get better. They've been with me for 26 years, through all the ups and downs and changes of their life. But if I take the assumption that I'm going to be with you for 10 years, then I want to get to know you. I want to know what your history is. I want to know what your habits are and that's the same thing. Even the child that can't communicate for themselves, I can find out in the household what's going on.
Dr. Schwartz: Right and that's a, I think, a more satisfying healing practice, rather than…
20:37 Diet Choices
Eve: I just had a kid that had C. diff. He's just turned a year-old. He's had C. diff. The grandmother intervened with him. We got the kid through the C. diff by using something really complicated, Saccharomycin and ProbioMax.
Dr. Schwartz: C. diff is a nasty bacteria, for our listeners.
Eve: A really nasty bacteria, but the circumstances are when I investigated what was being eaten in the household, they stop at Pizza Hut one night. They get Taco Bell one night. They get out get Burger Doodle one night. You know the quality of food in the house is really poor. It is not going to bode well for the future of this little guy.
Dr. Schwartz: Right and well, I wouldn't ask you a percentage, but assume the family is still with you and they’re changing their diet and incrementally is a good word that I will often use.
Eve: When you understand, you make a hundred plus decisions about food every day. Does your tea have sugar in it or Stevia? Does it have half-and-half or soy milk? There's five decisions just based on your cuppa tea. So it isn’t a matter of three meals a day that you're making a decision about, it's a matter of all these little nuances, where you put butter on your toast or is it gluten-free. There's lots of subtlety there. So I'm always moving people toward a larger amount of plant-based foods. I’m always moving people to more organic. I'm always moving people to more variety in their diet. The average American only eats the same 25 foods all the time.
Dr. Schwartz: So you would say you are a real educator along with her practice?
Eve: No, my practice is education. There is the detective there, but if the detective doesn't take the information they glean and from that design a landscape that somebody can follow, then you’re not doing a very good job as a clinician. Somebody’s eating at Burger Doodle three times a week and you tell him to juice green and each sprouts, you may as well have a conversation with your shoes. They can’t go that far. The client that came to me that bought 31 lean cuisine meals on the first of the month and ate that every night, for her to put a tree of broccoli in the microwave and eat that with the lean cuisine dinner was a huge step for her. Now she cooks all of her own food. Now she takes cooking classes. Now she's actually cooking food more time than she's watching the food channel.
Dr. Schwartz: Good work.
Eve: But we started with adding a tree of broccoli to a frozen meal, because that was as far as she could stretch.
23:12 Supplements
Dr. Schwartz: Excellent. And then, let me ask a little more about the supplements and where or what supplements do you see produce more results or if it's specific for certain conditions, like many kids aren't talking. Many kids will have the gut symptoms. Many kids will have infections.
Eve: Again, I’m gonna work with the gut first, so the probiotics are going to be at the top of the list and not just the probiotics about digestion, the probiotics about reducing inflammation. Then I'm gonna be looking for a high antioxidant content in the supplements that I use, so that there are carotenoids and phenols and other compounds that have natural antioxidant effect. So whether it's green tea extract, whether it’s sulforaphane, whether it's beta-carotene, alpha carotene, lycopene, zeaxanthin.
Dr. Schwartz: Okay. Now you know I’m going to ask you to explain those in terms of their effect, where they come from.
24:08 The Power of Colors in Foods
Eve: Think of a rainbow. Think of all the colors in the rainbow. That red lycopene that shows up in the guava and the watermelon and the pink grapefruit and the tomato, that red pigment all by itself is an antioxidant. The orange beta-carotene that we find in the apricot and the papaya and the sweet potato and the acorn squash, the yellow lutein that's gonna show up hidden behind the chlorophyll in the spinach, the chlorophyll itself in every green food that you eat, the anthocyanins that are gonna show up in those blueberries, all those pigments have tremendous power. And yet America can eat brown food all day. We can have individuals; they have toast, pancakes and waffles and bagels for breakfast and they have a burger on a bun with French fries and a soda for lunch. They’re eating brown, brown, brown. They never get the colors. So a lot of your antioxidant power is in those pigments. So I'm going to use a high quality multivitamin/multimineral. When I run something like a SpectraCell test, I’m going to find out if somebody is low or high in certain nutrients. When I run a toxic and urinary minerals and metals profile, I'm going to find out whether somebody is high or low in certain nutrients. Then I might adjust the formula, but generally I'm gonna start with a high quality multivitamin/multimineral, probiotics, whatever I need to straighten out the gut, digestive enzymes and most often fish oils.
25:48 Sulforaphane
Dr. Schwartz: Sulforaphane is an interesting one because that has actually been researched and blinded fashion with autism.
Eve: That was a remarkable study.
Dr. Schwartz: Can you say a few words about that and why Sulforaphane may be unique?
Eve: Well, if I ever know anybody who wins a Nobel Prize it will be Dr. Paul Talalay, who I think really truly is a genius. Because when he discovered this magical Sulforaphane compound in broccoli and then broccoli sprouts and ultimately in its highest amount in broccoli seeds, he discovered something that turns on the antioxidants in your own cell. Unlike me giving you a vitamin C, which is the last in your bloodstream for a few hours, we actually turn on your own cell's ability to make antioxidants. I probably couldn't get you to eat 4 3/4 pounds of broccoli today, and I know if you did, you wouldn’t eat 4 3/4 the broccoli again tomorrow and I certainly wouldn't get a challenged child to be able to do that. But I can give it in a capsule of Sulforaphane. I think it's profound that the mechanism by which Sulforaphane works is to get the cell to make its own antioxidants.
Dr. Schwartz: Our own innate antioxidant.
Eve: Isn’t that amazing that we can turn that switch?
Dr. Schwartz: And the humble broccoli seed is the best source.
Eve: The humble broccoli seed is the best source.
Dr. Schwartz: Excellent. And what other supplements might you think stand up and stand out in autism treatment.
27:20 Heavy Metal Detox
Eve: Well, all different ones for all different reasons. By the time that we’re looking at heavy metals, than the Kelex chelating agent becomes very critical here. You can't get an autistic child to have an IV that is going to last for hours. And so I have to use oral delivery of a compound like Kelex, in order to try to reduce the total metals toxic load. And now that we know that lead can transport the placenta, that these other metals can transport the placenta, we are actually seeing kids that are already heavy metal contaminated at birth. That’s shocking.
Dr. Schwartz: You will use combination homeopathic and nutritional?
Eve: Oh, yes. I'm going to use every tool at my disposal. You have to remember. You come up against the bias of the parents. If you don’t have a convincing strategy to be able to get the parents on board with what it is that you're doing, you’re not to get fulfillment, no matter how insightful you are as a clinician. If the parents don't believe, “Ya, that’s just a bunch of nonsense about those heavy metals.” Well, you’re at a dead end. You have to look at another route of treatment. You have to try to get the alpha lipoic acid into them for another reason. Because that's again get help chelate out some of those metals. We wonder why. How can we have a child that young and yet they're exposed to these metals?
28:53 Lead Affects the Brain
Eve: I had a client in San Francisco and she bought a house that was built in 1820 and it had lead pipes and within six months she and her husband both were lead contaminated. Well, guess what happened to their grandkids that came and stayed with them for the summer? Ditto. Affects mental function, even after the fact. It wasn't autism, but it affected the development of these children at age 3 to 5.
Dr. Schwartz: Right. And that's one thing we always work with having people where are the sources, potential sources. And old houses, of course, are a major one for toxic metals.
Eve: But if it hadn't been for the fact that she and her husband both became hypertensive within the six months, we wouldn’t have discovered the lead, which turned around and affected her grandkids. Back to detective work again.
Dr. Schwartz: Yes. Again, I’ll just mention it as a sad commentary in my opinion. Hypertension, we call it essential hypertension, as you know, which means we don't know what it is and we’re missing so many cases like this where we could look a little further.
Eve: I see lead very much related hypertension. I see lead very much related osteoporosis. But more than anything else, I see lead involved with neurodevelopment, that it creates retardation in the development of the neuronal connections.
Dr. Schwartz: And that’s something we should've known for a long time. But it wasn't taken out until the late 70s, lead paint.
Eve: Oh, Gee. Do you think that might have had anything to do with corporations that are selling lead not wanting the federal government to regulate it?
Dr. Schwartz: Yes I do.
Eve: It would seem so if you look at how the acceptable lead levels have come down, come down, come down, come down, over the years.
Dr. Schwartz: No and just as a comment on that the researcher at Harvard, Herbert Needleman. You know the story. He showed conclusively; the higher the lead, the lower the IQ. It was an amazing biomarker. As I’m sure you know, biomarkers can be challenging. But this was a black-and-white one. What happened, the lead industry, at the time, the battery manufacturers accused him of fraud, shut down his lab for three years. He was vindicated, but it was difficult. It almost never got there about lead. I can think some parallels today what you won't talk about right now, but just to show an individual can do if they will stay with it.
Eve: Well, interesting one of the highest lead levels I ever saw on a test, we’re looking for a level below 2 and this woman came back to me with 24, so 12 times the amount lead we would expect. We chelated her over time and it went from 24 down to 11. And it went from 11 to 7, and went from 7 to 3.5. She visited her family in New Jersey in the area where she grew up and she decided is a little memorabilia she would go back to the sandlot where she played baseball as a little girl. The feds had erected a 16 foot tall chain-link fence with razor wire on the top around the place that she played sandlot baseball because at one point prior to World War II it had been a battery factory. She had played on the ground for all those years as a little girl and apparently got lead poisoning from her exposure to that dust.
Dr. Schwartz: And in the good news is, this example we can do something about as lead levels have dropped dramatically. I can remember as a student in medical school, the lead level have been dropped from 60 to 40. I saw a child at level of 38 and in my ignorance, which I’m embarrassed about now, of course, I told him “It's a safe level. Don't worry.”
Eve: And in the next year they said it was 25.
Dr. Schwartz: Right
Eve: And then the next year they said it was 10.
Dr. Schwartz: Right.
Eve: Now they're questioning whether 2 is too high.
Dr. Schwartz: So this is what we’re dealing with. But I think I certainly find more interest and move along to make these steps. Do you find that? What kind of results do see with kids?
Eve: I see all of the results. I see kids that get amazingly better in a really short period of time and I see kids that are fairly nonresponsive, no matter what their invention is. I wish I could say that that wasn't true.
Dr. Schwartz: You know, honestly that's what I think all the practitioners would say. Because these kids are so far gone sometimes it's just.
33:02 Managing Expectations
Eve: What I'm looking for is how much function we can get. How much pain has this family gone through? I'm often treating the parents as much as I'm treating the challenged child. Treating the parents’ nervous systems so that they can tolerate the amount of caregiving they have to do. They can tolerate the setbacks. They want a magic wand. They want me or any other clinician to be able to wave a magic wand over their kid and have everything work and it doesn't always happen that way. I feel like I have to address expectations all the time in the parents and the grandparents who just think that they're going to go online and they’re to find some new multilevel marketing company that has a berry that nobody heard of until yesterday, from an island nobody ever heard of, and that’s going to cure their kid. I have to do a reality check for those parents.
Dr. Schwartz: And that said, there are some kids who do respond really well.
Eve: Yeah. He asked for broccoli. I mean that was a huge one. I remember a little boy that had done so poorly. He's in school. He was competent enough and functional enough to be in school and he was in second grade and he got a 38 on his reading test. We’re looking for numbers over 90 and we treated him with aminos and the next year he got a 78 on his reading test. So here's a kid that still has behavior issues, who still has conceptual functional issues, but what's true is he can read and understand now. That certainly wasn't the case when he first came to me. So there are times that those put a big smile on your face because we didn't know how far we can take him.
Dr. Schwartz: No, that's certainly important and gratifying to be able to be involved in this and again and I appreciate all the teaching that you do, helping practitioners get a deeper understanding of the detox. Is anything else you’d like to say before we close?
35:08 Can You Make One Step?
Eve: We live in a dirty world. Everybody, not just the autistic child or the parents of the autistic child, but everybody needs to be involved in detoxification, every single solitary day, using Drainage, a homeopathic remedy that tells your liver to take out the trash. If you didn't take anything else, that one bottle of something I would want you to take every day forever and ever. Because we live in a dirty world and what can you do about living in a dirty world? Can you use an absolute one micron filter and fill your own stainless steel water bottle and stop throwing away the 60 million plastic bottles that get thrown away every day? Can you make a step? Can you turn the lights out in your hotel room when you leave in the morning? Can you make one step to try to keep our planet cleaner? Not just for us today, but for every child for the future?
Dr. Schwartz: Yes, we can and do we need to.
Eve: I think we gotta do it.
Dr. Schwartz: The need is great and there's a lot of information out there now. And I think the other important thing I hear from my practitioners, autism is a spectrum, as in as you point out, what's affecting these kids, is affecting everybody. And you know the Canary Kids Project, Documenting Hope, to get kids treated for these things and show that it can be reversed and we’ll be talking with other interviews. There is hope out there and Documenting Hope is an example it.
36:37 Every Choice You Make
Eve: I hope I’ve pointed my finger at a few things that people can take action on. What I don't want individuals to do is sit on their hands and think that there's nothing they can do, when in fact, every choice you make today, can ensure a better future, both for you personally and for everybody else around you.
Dr. Schwartz: That is really an excellent closing thought and important. I like to let our viewers listeners know how to hear your shows, where to get in touch with the clinic if they're in the area.
Eve: My clinic is Full Spectrum Health in Sarasota Florida. It’s been there 27 years now and I have two public radio shows on W SLR in Sarasota on Monday mornings at 9 o'clock and W MNF every other week, which is a Tampa station and both of those are available on the web. You just go to W MNF.org or W SLR.org. Also, I've taken about 200 of my shows and put them on podomatic and you just put in my name, Eve Plews and there is about 200 shows there on everything from peaches to toxins to adrenal health.
Dr. Schwartz: These will be on, of course, our listener website. People can just get them if they haven’t been able to remember them. Okay. Fantastic. Very best wishes, Eve. Thanks again. Appreciate it so much.
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About Eve Prang Plews, LNC
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[op_liveeditor_element data-style=”e30=”][text_block style=”style_1.png” align=”left”]Eve Prang Plews is an accomplished Nutrition Counselor, Entrepreneur & Philanthropist. She opened her Sarasota clinic, Full Spectrum Health, 24 years ago with a driving passion to “educate, empower and heal individuals who desire to create optimal health in body, mind and spirit through teaching, therapy and tools in a caring, supportive environment”. With years of clinical experience counseling clients, while staying on the forefront of functional medicine education, Eve is known for her expertise in the integration of medical science, health and nutrition.
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